2010 Changes & VPP/hand

[FPP Pro]

With the 2010 changes, VPP/hand will obviously be affected. The effect for FR is generally negative while the VPP/hand rates at SH/HU games have generally improved.

Someone over at 2p2 put this together. I believe based on PTR data. I will be doing the same shortly and attempting to make very accurate VPP/hand tables.

http://www.fpppro.com/images/vpphandchanges.jpg

[PlzStopPwn]

you're doing a great job !

[FPP Pro]

Two things:
1) That chart isn't quite accurate -sorry for posting before 100% confirmation in the numbers
2) Popular tracking sites use rake paid instead of MGR (total rake/# players) which will make getting VPP/hand numbers nearly impossible for every limit.

So if you guys can spend 5-10 minutes in your database for me and post your MGR at specific limits and the number of hands it's over that would be a big help in updating the VPP/hand pages. I'll post a how to soon.

[Outlaw]

I am giving more info than you requested just in case its useful.

2NL FR- 56,248 hands- Rake= $57.25, MGR= $76.81, hands per hour= 52.98 (1,732 sessions)
5NL FR- 36,220 hands- Rake= $98.00, MGR= $115.70, Hands per hour= 59.10 (825 sessions)
10NL FR- 39,107 hands- Rake= $165.90, MGR= $207.87, Hands per hour= 62.66 (744 sessions)
10NL 6M- 42,292 hands- Rake= $328.90, MGR= $431.19, Hands per hour= 83.13 (533 sessions)
25NL FR- 140,255 hands- Rake= $1,503.15, MGR= 1,936.05, Hands per hour= 72.45 (2,808 sessions)

[Ninja]

NL400 6max PokerStars, report from HM (an alias with 10 players):

Hands 1,472,910
MGR: $175,333.45

MGR/Hand = $0,1190

[FPP Pro]

Hey thanks a lot guys, that's really helpful

[FPP Pro]

Some FR Data:

400 #1: 49138 hands / 5388 MGR
400 #2: 59351 hands / 6695 MGR
600: 14488 hands / 2047 MGR
1k: 3062 hands / 546 MGR

Will try for a minimum 100k hands and two people's samples before posting official VPP/hands.

[madscout]

where can i get MGR in hold'em manager?

[FPP Pro]

I believe HEM calculates "Rake" as MGR (instead of contributed). So it should be that.

You can also add "New Stars VPP" or whatever the exact name of that stat is and multiply by 6/5 for full ring and 5.5/5 for shorthanded/heads up.

[Schwatt]

Several samples from several limits(all full ring):

100nl - 379941 hands, $21064 rake
100nl - 1481036 hands , $83041 rake
200nl - 295082 hands, $25143.95 rake
200nl - 348319 hands, $26105 rake
400nl - 71140 hands , $7719.40 rake
400nl - 10600 hands, $1176 rake